Aaron Salvato and Brian Higgins are here to talk about Jesus, faith, and the Christian Life.
A show filled with powerful interviews, fascinating theological deep-dives, and a never ending stream of questions, there’s always something to discover on The Good Lion Podcast.
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In this episode, Aaron shares part of a lecture on sin and hell that was originally taught at the Good Lion School of discipleship with the goal of helping young Christians navigate these tumultuous waters. Through biblical texts and personal reflection, we explore the intricate dance between divine justice and mercy. Why would a loving God create a realm of eternal suffering? Is hell intended for humanity, or does its creation serve a different divine purpose entirely? And, are the flames of hell literal, or merely a metaphor?
These are questions that haunt believers and skeptics alike.
As we unpack these themes, prepare to be challenged, comforted, and perhaps even confronted by an issue we tend to avoid.
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Our guests are Mike Dente, Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Paris, France, and Professor Darrell Bock from Dallas Theological Seminary. We discuss everything from the distinctions between Israel and ethnic Israel, the Church, and political Israel, to progressive and traditional dispensationalism. We're unraveling the complex tapestry of God's divine program, one thread at a time.
We dive into the pivotal covenants God has made, and seek to understand how these manage His divine program. We also discuss the interplay between covenantal theology and dispensationalism, and what this means for our understanding of the Bible's multi-dimensional nature.
We also explore the complexities of identifying God's people (is it Israel, or the Church?), examine the reconciliation of one people of God, and discuss the mission of redemption for Jews and Gentiles alike.
We also address the relevance of prophecy update church services… Yes, we're going there!
We dig into the ethical implications of judgment and rapture in the dispensationalism context, offering insights on compassionate interpretation and the importance of living out your faith. Plus, we discuss the potential dangers of viewing those who do not share our faith as enemies rather than a mission field.
In the second half of the episode, we ask Dr. Bock to engage with an article by Scot McKnight, as well as the teachings of NT Wright. You definitely don't want to miss this!
Chapters
(00:00:00) – Intro: What is Progressive Dispensationalism?
(00:09:35) – Exploring Covenantal and Dispensational Theology
(00:25:36) – Who are God's People?
(00:38:04) – Newspaper Theology & Prophecy Updates: Helpful, or Harmful?
(00:48:22) – Is the Amillennial View a Theologically Liberal Interpretation?
(00:57:50) – Engaging with Scott McKnight: ”The Late Great Dispensationalism?”
(01:16:05) – N.T. Wright and Inaugurated Eschatology
(01:23:36) – Common Grace and Cultural Engagement for the Dispensationalist
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In this episode, Aaron addresses a question that they often get from new listeners: “What is the GoodLion Podcast?” He explains that the he and Brian see the show as a platform for open and honest discussions about the Christian faith and how it relates to the issues that young people face in their daily lives. They believe that these are important conversation to have, as many young people are struggling to make sense of their faith in a world that is constantly changing and challenging them.
Through the show, Aaron and Brian have seen God use their conversations to minister to people and help them grow in their faith. Aaron shares some of the ways that the GoodLion Podcast has been a ministry to their audience, including providing a sense of community and support for young people who may be feeling isolated in their faith. He also discusses how they have launched GoodLion Ministries as a way to grow what God is doing through GoodLion.
Overall, this episode of the GoodLion Podcast is a great introduction to the show for those who are curious about what it’s all about. Whether you’re a long-time listener or just discovering the show for the first time, this episode will give you a better understanding of the heart and vision of the GoodLion Podcast and the ways that God is using it to minister to young people and help them grow in their faith.
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Note from Aaron: In this episode towards the 2nd half, we discuss some of the geopolitical issues at play. I am a novice in these things, and I tend to approach things from a “Kingdom of God lens” as much as possible. That said, I acknowledge some of what I say in this episode could be said in ignorance, especially as we are discussing some of the various theories out there sent in by our friends on social media. Please bear with me (and feel free to reach out if you have something to add to the discussion!)
That said, I truly agree with the words of Jon Tyson:
“The real conspiracy is satanic and it’s goal is to get you to focus on ‘global meta whatevers’ that you can do almost nothing about and neglect the place of prayer, the word, and sacrificial love of neighbor.”
I encourage all listeners, no matter their political lens, to really consider what Benjamin is saying, as a pastor and brother in Christ on the ground floor of this war. He offers a lot of wisdom for us to consider, and has proven his focus is on the advances of the light of the Gospel into the darkest places.
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Support Benjamin’s Ministry in Ukraine
GoodLion Episode: Warnings About Progressive Christianity
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Ask GoodLion is a video series from Aaron Salvato & Brian Higgins, two Bible-theology nerds and hosts of The GoodLion Podcast (https://goodlion.org/glp/)
These guys love theology, deep thinking, and asking tough questions. The tagline of their show is “No Easy Answers.” We here are GoodLion believe the Church should be a place where talking through questions should be normal, and so we hope this series is helpful to you as you explore your faith well. Aaron & Brian are the founders of the GoodLion Podcast Network, where they serve as creative and spiritual directors.
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It’s SO easy for us to fly into self righteous rage in comment sections. But it’s not the way of the peacemaker. Jesus calls us to navigate these difficult waters. In this podcast is some really practical stuff I’ve picked up over the years about how to be a peacemaker in online (and offline) discussions. I think we all could use reminders like this, myself included! I hope it’s helpful to you as you navigate this crazy season we are in. Remember that Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers. We have a role to play in this cultural moment, and despite how things seem at times on social media, we don’t have to blow out witness. We can hold onto our convictions while passionately loving those who disagree.
So often we live in echo chambers where we can easily dismiss and disrespect those we disagree with. But how does that feel when others do it to us? How does it feel when people who disagree with us show us respect, despite the disagreements? Friends, we are called to see those we disagree with the way God sees them, humans made in the image of God! Mark 16: 15 – Jesus said “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation!” That includes not just “safe people” in far off countries, but the people right in our own cities, families, and social groups who get under our skin because of differing views.
Most people in our country are traditionally divided into 2 groups: conservatives and liberals, and traditionally, these 2 groups despite one another (especially around election season.) For Christians who claim either label, I would gently ask this: how can you reach a population when you instinctively hate half the population due to your disagreements with them?
We are called to the way of the Peacemaker (Jesus), not to be like the Pharisee who said “thank GOD I’m not like him… that nasty tax collector…” We are called to be like Jesus, someone who reached out to both Pharisee and tax collector with the hope and good news of the Gospel of the Kingdom. I find it’s best to work on our heart posture in advance.
It is fully possible to hold compassion without compromise! In my time doing ministry I’ve felt a special pull towards reaching out to those on the margins of faith, those who are skeptics or have doubts or negative feelings about faith… very often they’ve told me “thank you for your kindness, most Christians hate me.” I take no pride in this… but I’m filled with concern, because I truly believe every atheist alive should know at least 5 Christians who treat them with love.
Also… I’m very aware of my own failures in this area. When I was a young Christian I loved debating with people… and I drove many away with my lack of love. I want to encourage us all to make an effort in this area. It is so important to show kindness to those we disagree with!
Love is our weapon and it WILL make a difference if we use it. ❤️
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